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		<title>By: hermajestysplaything</title>
		<link>http://ladyjulia.net/myblog/relationships/3679-wants-versus-needs-female-led-femdom/comment-page-1/#comment-2824</link>
		<dc:creator>hermajestysplaything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lubyanka:

Yes! When you put it that way you and I are on exactly the same page! ;-)

Best

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lubyanka:</p>
<p>Yes! When you put it that way you and I are on exactly the same page! ;-)</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>hmp</p>
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		<title>By: Lubyanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lubyanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;hermajestysplaything&lt;/b&gt; wrote: &quot;So lets start with the assumption that the pro we would ask for advice is a person [...]&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This is my primary problem.  I think most of us here would agree with most of your comment without question.  However, I also think that most of us here are talking about pro doms who use their profession as an excuse to dictate &#160;&lt;b&gt;unsolicited&lt;/b&gt;&#160; unwelcome disrespectful advice.  By far the bulk of the advice I&#039;ve had from pro doms, as exemplified beautifully in these comments, has been entirely unsolicited, unwanted, and unnecessary.  Furthermore, this unsolicited advice is almost always unwelcome due to it being phrased disrespectfully and One-True-Way-y.

So let&#039;s start with the assumption that unsolicited orders dressed up as advice from uninvited dictators is inappropriate, unwelcome, and rude, and that this applies to all human beings, and I hope we can all agree to that.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>hermajestysplaything</b> wrote: &#8220;So lets start with the assumption that the pro we would ask for advice is a person [...]&#8220;</i></p>
<p>This is my primary problem.  I think most of us here would agree with most of your comment without question.  However, I also think that most of us here are talking about pro doms who use their profession as an excuse to dictate &nbsp;<b>unsolicited</b>&nbsp; unwelcome disrespectful advice.  By far the bulk of the advice I&#8217;ve had from pro doms, as exemplified beautifully in these comments, has been entirely unsolicited, unwanted, and unnecessary.  Furthermore, this unsolicited advice is almost always unwelcome due to it being phrased disrespectfully and One-True-Way-y.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s start with the assumption that unsolicited orders dressed up as advice from uninvited dictators is inappropriate, unwelcome, and rude, and that this applies to all human beings, and I hope we can all agree to that.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hermajestysplaything

I really enjoyed your post.  Well said.  I guess there is a reason Baskin-Robbins makes 31 flavors of ice cream.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hermajestysplaything</p>
<p>I really enjoyed your post.  Well said.  I guess there is a reason Baskin-Robbins makes 31 flavors of ice cream.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: hermajestysplaything</title>
		<link>http://ladyjulia.net/myblog/relationships/3679-wants-versus-needs-female-led-femdom/comment-page-1/#comment-2733</link>
		<dc:creator>hermajestysplaything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lubyanka:

You make some good points here. I think the key is summed up by your final sentence; &quot;that’s about as much credence as I’m prepared to offer without further information on them as a human being.&quot;  Prodommes are people and usually quite unique as individuals.  Some of them (usually those that have been around for many years) are extremely intelligent and together. Others are walking disaster areas with serious emotional disorders. So lets start with the assumption that the pro we would ask for advice is a person who has some solid experience, integrity, intelligence and is not a drug addict or suffering from a mental disorder. You would be surprised. That actually separates out quite a few! ;-)

Certainly I think you could pick up tips on advanced bondage ties, how to use a single tail whip without causing permanent damage, play piercing, permanent piercing, branding, electrical play, all the heavier BDSM activities that require some training before one can play in a safe sane and consensual manner. Some of the truly great Dommes might also be able to provide keen insights into the way the mind of a submissive male works. (Hey don&#039;t knock it! I&#039;ve been trying to figure out the way my mind works for years!)  Some of the pros (though certainly not all) are also lifestyle players and could probably provide good advice about the kinky social scene to someone who was not familiar with it.  I might not be inclined, however, to ask pros about personal relationships as many of them struggle with those. In fact many a pro has a personal life that somewhat resembles a train wreck.

I hope I have clarified my earlier posts somewhat. Lovely speaking with you.

Best

hmp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lubyanka:</p>
<p>You make some good points here. I think the key is summed up by your final sentence; &#8220;that’s about as much credence as I’m prepared to offer without further information on them as a human being.&#8221;  Prodommes are people and usually quite unique as individuals.  Some of them (usually those that have been around for many years) are extremely intelligent and together. Others are walking disaster areas with serious emotional disorders. So lets start with the assumption that the pro we would ask for advice is a person who has some solid experience, integrity, intelligence and is not a drug addict or suffering from a mental disorder. You would be surprised. That actually separates out quite a few! ;-)</p>
<p>Certainly I think you could pick up tips on advanced bondage ties, how to use a single tail whip without causing permanent damage, play piercing, permanent piercing, branding, electrical play, all the heavier BDSM activities that require some training before one can play in a safe sane and consensual manner. Some of the truly great Dommes might also be able to provide keen insights into the way the mind of a submissive male works. (Hey don&#8217;t knock it! I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out the way my mind works for years!)  Some of the pros (though certainly not all) are also lifestyle players and could probably provide good advice about the kinky social scene to someone who was not familiar with it.  I might not be inclined, however, to ask pros about personal relationships as many of them struggle with those. In fact many a pro has a personal life that somewhat resembles a train wreck.</p>
<p>I hope I have clarified my earlier posts somewhat. Lovely speaking with you.</p>
<p>Best</p>
<p>hmp</p>
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		<title>By: Lubyanka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lubyanka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does taking money to dominate a limited and self-selecting client population during pre-arranged and finite time spans somehow give a pro dom expertise on all BDSM-y social relationships?  Does prostitution experience make a person an expert in vanilla relationship advice?  I think that expertise in the service industry is completely different and separate to expertise on social relationships.

I wouldn&#039;t consider relationship advice from a prostitute just because they were a prostitute, any more than I would consider relationship advice from a pro dom just because they were a pro dom.  And in general, I disregard all advice from the self-absorbed who choose to dictate their way as the only way.  

Having said that, I&#039;m sure I&#039;d be delighted to consider advice from a pro dom on their favourite way to use a paddle, or from a prostitute on their favourite way to receive and give oral sex.  But that&#039;s about as much credence as I&#039;m prepared to offer without further information on them as a human being.

So there.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does taking money to dominate a limited and self-selecting client population during pre-arranged and finite time spans somehow give a pro dom expertise on all BDSM-y social relationships?  Does prostitution experience make a person an expert in vanilla relationship advice?  I think that expertise in the service industry is completely different and separate to expertise on social relationships.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t consider relationship advice from a prostitute just because they were a prostitute, any more than I would consider relationship advice from a pro dom just because they were a pro dom.  And in general, I disregard all advice from the self-absorbed who choose to dictate their way as the only way.  </p>
<p>Having said that, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d be delighted to consider advice from a pro dom on their favourite way to use a paddle, or from a prostitute on their favourite way to receive and give oral sex.  But that&#8217;s about as much credence as I&#8217;m prepared to offer without further information on them as a human being.</p>
<p>So there.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: hermajestysplaything</title>
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		<dc:creator>hermajestysplaything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said Lady Julia! I couldn&#039;t agree more!  I don&#039;t subscribe to any D/s philosophy that proclaims to be the only true way. I get my information from all over, take what I need and leave the rest. Her Majesty and I seem to have found what works for us. That said I would never presume to suggest that what we have works for everybody. The variations are infinite. It takes a long time before you find out where you fit.

Frequently it seems there is a hostility between the lifestyle and pro community which seems a shame. There are good people and buffoons in both camps. Speaking for myself I have found happiness serving at the feet of my Queen. For me a lifestyle relationship definitely makes the most sense because I am fortunate enough to have found true love. Combined with D/s that is pretty much impossible to beat. But part of my journey of self discovery was with a pro. I could never have reached the place I am now without having experienced that along the way.

Respectfully

hmp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said Lady Julia! I couldn&#8217;t agree more!  I don&#8217;t subscribe to any D/s philosophy that proclaims to be the only true way. I get my information from all over, take what I need and leave the rest. Her Majesty and I seem to have found what works for us. That said I would never presume to suggest that what we have works for everybody. The variations are infinite. It takes a long time before you find out where you fit.</p>
<p>Frequently it seems there is a hostility between the lifestyle and pro community which seems a shame. There are good people and buffoons in both camps. Speaking for myself I have found happiness serving at the feet of my Queen. For me a lifestyle relationship definitely makes the most sense because I am fortunate enough to have found true love. Combined with D/s that is pretty much impossible to beat. But part of my journey of self discovery was with a pro. I could never have reached the place I am now without having experienced that along the way.</p>
<p>Respectfully</p>
<p>hmp</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t personally have an issue with women who dominate for money any more than I have a problem with women who have sex for money.  As long as it&#039;s all done safely so that no one gets hurt and as it&#039;s between two consenting adults,  I consider it to be none of my business.  There are men who would never have the opportunity to experience what they deeply desire (and some say need) if it weren&#039;t for women who dominate for money.  

My issue is with those who profess to be the final word on anything simply because they get paid to do it and have been doing it for years.  There are people (doctors for example) who are literally experts in their field with massive amounts of education and a string of letters after their name who have been practicing for years yet don&#039;t have the final word on some things.  I trust some more than others, but I still listen and make my own judgment no matter who is telling me something.  And yes, I get it wrong sometimes, too.
 
I also take issue with people who profess their way is the only way and that they know what everyone else needs.  No one knows for certain what I need except me.  Sometimes I don&#039;t even know and it takes work to find out.  

No one knows everything and few people know nothing.  I try to listen and take from conversations what seems reasonable.  That said, how the information is presented does impact on the number of people who hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t personally have an issue with women who dominate for money any more than I have a problem with women who have sex for money.  As long as it&#8217;s all done safely so that no one gets hurt and as it&#8217;s between two consenting adults,  I consider it to be none of my business.  There are men who would never have the opportunity to experience what they deeply desire (and some say need) if it weren&#8217;t for women who dominate for money.  </p>
<p>My issue is with those who profess to be the final word on anything simply because they get paid to do it and have been doing it for years.  There are people (doctors for example) who are literally experts in their field with massive amounts of education and a string of letters after their name who have been practicing for years yet don&#8217;t have the final word on some things.  I trust some more than others, but I still listen and make my own judgment no matter who is telling me something.  And yes, I get it wrong sometimes, too.</p>
<p>I also take issue with people who profess their way is the only way and that they know what everyone else needs.  No one knows for certain what I need except me.  Sometimes I don&#8217;t even know and it takes work to find out.  </p>
<p>No one knows everything and few people know nothing.  I try to listen and take from conversations what seems reasonable.  That said, how the information is presented does impact on the number of people who hear.</p>
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		<title>By: hermajestysplaything</title>
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		<dc:creator>hermajestysplaything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think lifestyle folks are way too hard on pros. Pros definitely have their place in the scene. They know their way around the darker recesses of the human mind. Instead of getting all freaked out when a pro offers her advice lifestyle folks should listen to what she has to say. Who knows they might even learn something. Instead they get all freaked out and reach for the burning torches and the crucifix! LOL! ;-)

 I was very amused by the last post. It was very funny. But in truth when you fill out a questionnaire for a pro you are merely letting the domme know what your interests are to establish compatibility. What she does with that info is up to her. Very few pros are going to give you exactly what you want just how you say you want it. Not the good ones anyway. The good ones will make it their business to delve deep and find out what you really NEED. Then they rope you in and keep you coming back for more! ;-) 

Their are many different kinds of pros out there just like their are many different types of shrinks, doctors and dentists. It&#039;s a mistake to lump them all together and say they are all alike. They have a lot of things they can teach some of the lifestyle folks out there.

Just my two cents of course! ;-) 

Respectfully,

hmp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think lifestyle folks are way too hard on pros. Pros definitely have their place in the scene. They know their way around the darker recesses of the human mind. Instead of getting all freaked out when a pro offers her advice lifestyle folks should listen to what she has to say. Who knows they might even learn something. Instead they get all freaked out and reach for the burning torches and the crucifix! LOL! ;-)</p>
<p> I was very amused by the last post. It was very funny. But in truth when you fill out a questionnaire for a pro you are merely letting the domme know what your interests are to establish compatibility. What she does with that info is up to her. Very few pros are going to give you exactly what you want just how you say you want it. Not the good ones anyway. The good ones will make it their business to delve deep and find out what you really NEED. Then they rope you in and keep you coming back for more! ;-) </p>
<p>Their are many different kinds of pros out there just like their are many different types of shrinks, doctors and dentists. It&#8217;s a mistake to lump them all together and say they are all alike. They have a lot of things they can teach some of the lifestyle folks out there.</p>
<p>Just my two cents of course! ;-) </p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>hmp</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was out of line by calling a comment bullshit then I apologize but I do think there are things people say here where the label applies.  Many things said in comments here are insightful and helpful.  Some are ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was out of line by calling a comment bullshit then I apologize but I do think there are things people say here where the label applies.  Many things said in comments here are insightful and helpful.  Some are ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you dominate someone you must do what you want not what he wants. It’s that simple&quot;

I call bullshit.

I didn’t actually know we were allowed to call bullshit on this site but Richard did so I am too.

Also, If we can call bullshit I have a list of other comments I’d like to go back and call bullshit on. 

Basically a retro bullshit.

Anyway, a while back I actually looked into becoming a professional dominatrix as an at home business opportunity along with medical transcription, refrigeration repair and pet grooming so I know of what I speak.

These women have detailed questionnaires about what their clients would like to experience. They’re more about happy customers than being dominant. The guys with the cash are really the ones calling the shots.

&quot;Whip me harder damnit!&quot;

Sadly start up costs on a dungeon are crazy and I’m actually making a decent living taking online surveys 8-10 hours a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you dominate someone you must do what you want not what he wants. It’s that simple&#8221;</p>
<p>I call bullshit.</p>
<p>I didn’t actually know we were allowed to call bullshit on this site but Richard did so I am too.</p>
<p>Also, If we can call bullshit I have a list of other comments I’d like to go back and call bullshit on. </p>
<p>Basically a retro bullshit.</p>
<p>Anyway, a while back I actually looked into becoming a professional dominatrix as an at home business opportunity along with medical transcription, refrigeration repair and pet grooming so I know of what I speak.</p>
<p>These women have detailed questionnaires about what their clients would like to experience. They’re more about happy customers than being dominant. The guys with the cash are really the ones calling the shots.</p>
<p>&#8220;Whip me harder damnit!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sadly start up costs on a dungeon are crazy and I’m actually making a decent living taking online surveys 8-10 hours a day.</p>
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